Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Men, women, and .. Gorean roles.

If you have read one of the books, pretty much any of the books, you would think it would be pretty straight forward on the whole premise of the story, of the world itself, of the culture, and of what is expected of each person within their defendable circle of their sword, their spear, and yes their bow.

It first started years ago, I was a young Gorean, only a few days over 300 on Gor.. which is quite young when you think about it.

I was still young myself in Gor, in fact, it was within the first year or two of my experiencing this entire construct John Norman has set out for us... I was still getting used to some of the ideas, and adjusting on a couple levels to the atmosphere that should be.

We had a 'girl' come in, and eventually she came to us and explained, that she was a .. gee, I dont know how to say it. and I might have it wrong, so just 'flip' it if it is..

tiffany was actually a girl, who was in a boys body, waiting for gender reassessment surgery.

First of all, you have to know I have mixed feelings about this, and wouldnt get 'mixed up' in real life with someone like this, tho, I would let them live their lives like they have that right.

Now, that said..

 Gor, is a MANS WORLD.

GOR, is a world where WOMEN ARE NOT AFRAID TO BE WOMEN

Gor is a world where MEN REJOICE IN THEIR RIGHTS TO BE MEN

Gor is a world where even SLAVES rejoice in their sexuality and their slavehood.

Well.. presuming they are not working hard in the fields.. or working in the kitchen not getting their needs fulfilled.. but thats another story.

I have seen and heard of a number of things that bother me on ONLINE GOR.  Yes, I am including telnet/MOO chat, PRC, IMVU, Second Life, irc, and any other way we as GOREANS meet, roleplay.. communicate with each other.

This is one of the biggest issues I have.  We have manthers.  Men playing as panthers.  We have manjira's, men playing as kajira.  We have FemWarriors, we have Femasters, et al, et al.

Why do I have an issue with it?  After all, its roleplay, after all its a fictional constructed environment for our enjoyment, why not play what we want, as what we want.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH  YOUR TWISTING THE PHILOSOPHY OF GOR TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS OR WARPED DESIRES.

Gor, at its root, at the very source of John Norman's ideas for the world we play in, is a world where men are men, where men do not allow themselves to be weakened to be something other then they are.

Gor at its root, is a world where women, are women, they are not afraid to be women, even tho they might show disgust for slaves, as free women.  As slaves, they fear free woman, but they REJOICE in their gender, they REJOICE in what they are.  Women.

Gor at its root, is about getting around this stigma we on earth have had to suffer through.  I can't speak to whatever 'disease' or 'issue' that some claim puts them in the body of the wrong sex.  Thats not what this is about.

IF YOU ARE A MAN IN REAL LIFE, you should be playing a man in GOR.

IF YOU ARE A WOMAN IN REAL LIFE, you should be playing a woman in GOR.

If you want to gender bend, if you want to mix something up, go play vampland, go play some other fictional world where you might be much better received, where they expect 'wierd-ness'.

To make this matter worse.  While most of us are here to roleplay and not get involved on a Real life level, we have that barrier for a reason.  But keeping your true gender 'secret' becomes a serious issue.

You are a man playing a woman, didnt tell me, and you EXPECT me to trust you?

You are a woman, playing a man, didnt tell me, and you EXPECT me to trust you?

Not bloody likely, if you where a man playing a woman in real life, and I brought you home, I would be seriously pissed.  I would be seriously angry to the point  that  you risked any possible friendship or aquaintency we might have had possible.

Please, gender bending is something you should keep to your real life, or hell, bring it into SL, but keep it out of, and away from  your GOR character.  I expect you to, and I have a reasonable expectation of, the person behind the screen to be the gender your portraying on screen.


  • I can get over the fact your 90 years old, pock marks, and liver spots.  
  • I can get over the fact you might be 500 lbs, and in a wheelchair.
  • I can get over the fact you might be a 60 year old woman without breasts, and with a beard
  • I can even get over the fact you have man-boobs, are 76 years old and are a limp noodle Master.
BUT DAMNIT BE YOUR GENDER!

  • I can get over the fact you have a bald head, or have blond hair, or have red hair
  • I can get over the fact that you have challenges being a proper master
  • I can get over the fact that you have challenges understanding the mindset of a freewoman or kajira.
  • I can get over, the fact, that you are making up 90% of your character and  your not as othewise advertised.
I CAN NOT GET OVER YOU PLAYING THE OPPOSITE GENDER REGARDLESS WHAT YOU THINK YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BORN AS.

Over a year ago, in second life, I came across a woman avatar in second life.  She admitted to me that she was gender bending.  She was born RL a man, but was really a woman inside.  We had a LONG 6 hour conversation with 'him'.  While in my mind, I can't understand  how you can not be as you where born.  I can, and will, give the benefit of my years of knowledge when asked.  I can, and will, feel for your plight.  I can, and will even, sympathise with the fact you believe you think your a completely different gender.

I can not, and refuse to feel for you, if you are actively hiding such a thing from your role play partners.